Television Upfronts Bring Big Changes To Arrowverse, Patience For Agents Of Shield

With this year’s television upfronts having just concluded, we are now getting info on where and when we’ll see the return of some of our favorites from both DC and Marvel, and boy are there some surprises.

As you may know if you’re following us on the podcast (here,) the fates of the CW shows weren’t determined until about a month ago. Despite a lot of people questioning whether Supergirl, Flash or even Arrow should return, all are back, possibly aided by the fact that the network is expanding to a sixth night of programming (Sunday.)

While Flash’s fifth season will continue to be the lead-in to the very strong and entertaining, Black Lightning, remaining in the Tuesday night spot it’s held since it’s inception, Supergirl will move from the Monday night spot it had for it’s first three seasons (one on CBS, two on CW,) to Sunday’s at 8pm, 7 CST. Legends Of Tomorrow will now be locked in the Monday 8pm/7 CST slot it thrived in this year, and it will now be followed by Arrow! Oliver and crew had a very strong comeback season, really a second in a row, after everyone freaked out over too much magic being involved in season 4. Supergirl, Legends, Arrow, Flash and closing with Black Lightning makes for a much stronger lineup and wraps everything up by Tuesday night each week.

Marvel’s Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. has been given a 13-episode 6th season, which almost no one would’ve guessed, after last year’s story about Disney needing to “strongly urge” ABC to bring the show back. To no surprise of the actual fans of the show, we were treated to another fabulous season, which tied up so many loose ends and has us eager for another. The twist is when we will actually get to see them. As you may know if you’re watching, they explicitly connected Thanos attacking Earth in Infinity War, to the show. The concern many had upon the announcement of the 6th season, was that we’d see AoS come back before the issues stemming from Thanos snapping his fingers, had played out. The good news is, that won’t be a problem. The bad news, is the reason why. We won’t get the premiere of season 6 until the summer of 2019, meaning after the events of Avengers 4 play out. As a fan, this is bittersweet. Happy for another season, sad you have to wait.

I think the positives outweigh the negatives all the way around here. What about you? Let us know what you think!

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On Gotham, Neither Jerome, Nor Jeremiah Will Be The Joker

One thing that Gotham has had going for it from the beginning is a willingness to deviate from canon. We’ve seen new takes on the Falcone family, Lee Tompkins, Penguin, Riddler, and pretty much every other character in Batman’s world. The potential depiction of his most famous adversary, the Joker, was always a question and according to recent reports, that will continue. Cameron Monaghan, who has played both Jerome and Jeremiah Valeska (twins who have each taken on personas very similar to the Clown Prince Of Crime,) as well as producer John Stephens, have both confirmed that not only will neither Valeska brother become the Joker, Gotham isn’t even allowed to use the ‘J’ word or green hair on the show.

Monaghan posted this yesterday

John Stephens added this in response to questions about who Jerome (yeah, he’s dead, but when has that ever mattered on this show?) or Jeremiah might become:

 

“The other characters are who they are. Mad Hatter, Scarecrow, etcetera. But no, he isn’t the Joker. What we’ve always gone with is that Joker is somewhere out there, anonymous and unformed, in Gotham, and he’s watching the actions of Jeremiah and Jerome and possibly even another one, on his way somewhere down the line, and he’s adopting them as inspirations as the person he’ll one day become.”

There are a few ways to feel about this. If you’re in the camp that believes that the Joker’s hidden origin is sacred and the character is best when we don’t know what made him, this should be good news. There’s someone out there, taking notes on the actions of these Joker prototypes, but we’ll never find what creates them. The idea that he isn’t entirely original is a downer, but the origin story is saved. If you’re in the camp that wanted to see how the Joker came to be, you’re probably pissed at missing at least this show’s version of it.

Overall, it seems like a cheap move from the show. The Joker has long been one of the best villains of all time, in any medium. If the producers always knew they’d never get to use the full character, this is a premeditated ruse to string viewers along. If they didn’t, then they dove into starting down this road, and then continued down it once they found out they were limited in their options. Season four concludes next week and we haven’t gotten word of a renewal for a fifth, so hey, it may never matter and we can tell ourselves that Jeremiah becomes Joker. At this point, that may be best for everyone.

The CW Invites Everyone Back For Another Year

 

One of the things that was just discussed on the most recent episode of the podcast, released this morning (available here,) was that up until last night, Black Lightning had been the only CW superhero show that had been renewed. It’s been one of the best on television and deserved it, and with the ongoing struggles of all but one of the other shows, (thank you, Legends,) and pilot season just passing, hesitation made sense.

Everything was resolved this morning, as The CW has announced the return of the entire Arrowverse for another go, next season. Arrow will return for it’s seventh season, Flash for it’s fifth, Legends and Supergirl will get their fourth, along with the aforementioned second season of Black Lightning. Flash will officially hit 100 episodes thanks to it’s additional season. Amazingly, Supergirl, a show that started on another network, and Legends of Tomorrow, a show about “valueless” characters, thrown together (to often needle the Marvel universe – listen to our pod!) are a season away from also reaching the magic milestone of 100 episodes, themselves. Maybe this is the benefit of the network moving to 6 nights of programming, but we’re not complaining.

With this, we’re hoping each series ups the quality of show they’re putting out. We’ve had major issues with the paths that the longest running shows have taken (Ollie and Barry, we’re looking at you.) It would be great to see all of the series hit a stride that apes what their newest sibling has hit – or maybe having a series that’s sharp for a year or two and then fizzles is the Berlanti way. Either way, we’re excited to see what’s next. What do you think? Let us know!

The Trusty Sidekick – Episode 78

 

It’s the week before stand-up comics Jay Washington and Bobby Hill head to Chicago for C2E2 and they have everything you need to know about what’s happening in the Marvel and DC live-action universes, on the Laugh Factory Podcast Network. This week, we cover rumors, production news, casting info, spoilers, and reviews of New Gods, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Batman, Titans, Avengers, Captain Marvel, Venom, Deadpool, New Mutants, X-Men, Dr Doom, Nightwatch, Cloak and Dagger, Luke Cage, Legends Of Tomorrow, Black Lightning, Gotham, Krypton, and Agents Of Shield!

Find it at http://traffic.libsyn.com/trustysidekick/Ep78Final.mp3, via your favorite podcast app, or listen to any of our episodes on the podcast tab here. Please rate and review us!

DC Tabs Ava Duverney To Direct New Gods

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Now this is what I call making a big move. Warner Bros. and it’s beleaguered DC live-action universe has struggled with it’s choices of directors, but that took a turn today with the announcement that Ava Duvernay would be directing a big-budget, live-action version of New Gods, a motley crew, made glorious by Jack Kirby in the 70’s.

Kirby’s group of gods included Darkseid, Orion, Mister Miracle, and Big Barda (whom Duvernay had tweeted her fandom of a while back,) among others including Justice League’s big bad, Steppenwolf. Apparently DC is taking a turn towards the cosmos, and, if they stay true to Kirby’s comics, another dimension, because in the comics, New Genesis is in one parallel to the normal DC universe.

Duvernay’s latest, A Wrinkle In Time, has been applauded for what it looks like, even by those who don’t think it’s necessarily that good, so the questionable look of DC films may be aided by her handiwork. Even if you don’t think Wrinkle is great, good directors get second chances all the time, so I think it’s pretty cool to see a woman of color get the same benefit of the doubt as so many of her peers. What do you think? Are you excited to see Ava take the reigns on Kirby’s creations? Let us know!

The Trusty Sidekick – Episode 77

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Coming to you on the Laugh Factory podcast network, this week’s episode, with comics Jay Washington and Bobby Hill, is on fire with the latest info on Marvel and DC, including Wonder Woman, Shazam, Joker, Flashpoint, Booster Gold, Infinity War, Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel, Spider Man, and Silver & Black, plus recaps on Legends Of Tomorrow, Flash, Black Lightning, Arrow, Gotham, and Agents Of Shield.

Find it at http://traffic.libsyn.com/trustysidekick/TSEp77Final.mp3, via your favorite podcast app, or listen to any of our episodes on the podcast tab here. Please rate and review us! Also, get your free month of Stitcher Premium by going to http://stitcher.com/premium and using the promo code: TRUSTY. Check out Marvel’s new Wolverine podcast – out now!

Kristen Wiig Is Cheetah In The Wonder Woman Sequel!

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There had been talk about Kristen Wiig being in talks for the role of Cheetah in the Wonder Woman sequel, and just a little bit ago, director Patty Jenkins confirmed it in a tweet:

As previously discussed, the sequel to the box office and groundbreaking hit will take place in the 80’s and as of yet, we’re not sure which version of Cheetah that we will get. The most recent, depicts her as an archaeologist friend of Diana’s who becomes evil after coming into contact with an ancient deity. That is the Barbara Ann Minerva character that we’ve been told would be the basis for this movie.

Wiig, although known as a comedic actress, can certainly hold her own in serious roles, and will certainly add a flair as the main antagonist in this film. Considering that the cause of Minerva’s transformation is largely unintentional, there’s an opportunity for Jenkins to be able to paint her as a sympathetic bad guy, which has performed well in recent films (see: Killmonger in Black Panther.) The sequel is currently on pace for a November 1, 2019 release. What are your thoughts about Wiig facing off with Gadot in Wonder Woman 2? Let us know!