On Gotham, Neither Jerome, Nor Jeremiah Will Be The Joker

One thing that Gotham has had going for it from the beginning is a willingness to deviate from canon. We’ve seen new takes on the Falcone family, Lee Tompkins, Penguin, Riddler, and pretty much every other character in Batman’s world. The potential depiction of his most famous adversary, the Joker, was always a question and according to recent reports, that will continue. Cameron Monaghan, who has played both Jerome and Jeremiah Valeska (twins who have each taken on personas very similar to the Clown Prince Of Crime,) as well as producer John Stephens, have both confirmed that not only will neither Valeska brother become the Joker, Gotham isn’t even allowed to use the ‘J’ word or green hair on the show.

Monaghan posted this yesterday

John Stephens added this in response to questions about who Jerome (yeah, he’s dead, but when has that ever mattered on this show?) or Jeremiah might become:

 

“The other characters are who they are. Mad Hatter, Scarecrow, etcetera. But no, he isn’t the Joker. What we’ve always gone with is that Joker is somewhere out there, anonymous and unformed, in Gotham, and he’s watching the actions of Jeremiah and Jerome and possibly even another one, on his way somewhere down the line, and he’s adopting them as inspirations as the person he’ll one day become.”

There are a few ways to feel about this. If you’re in the camp that believes that the Joker’s hidden origin is sacred and the character is best when we don’t know what made him, this should be good news. There’s someone out there, taking notes on the actions of these Joker prototypes, but we’ll never find what creates them. The idea that he isn’t entirely original is a downer, but the origin story is saved. If you’re in the camp that wanted to see how the Joker came to be, you’re probably pissed at missing at least this show’s version of it.

Overall, it seems like a cheap move from the show. The Joker has long been one of the best villains of all time, in any medium. If the producers always knew they’d never get to use the full character, this is a premeditated ruse to string viewers along. If they didn’t, then they dove into starting down this road, and then continued down it once they found out they were limited in their options. Season four concludes next week and we haven’t gotten word of a renewal for a fifth, so hey, it may never matter and we can tell ourselves that Jeremiah becomes Joker. At this point, that may be best for everyone.

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The Trusty Sidekick – Episode 79

 

Fresh off of C2E2 in Chicago, comedians Jay Washington and Bobby Hill are back to load you up with everything going on in the live-action worlds of Marvel and DC, on the Laugh Factory Podcast Network. This week, we get you the latest info on The Avengers, Eternals, Deadpool 2, X-Men: Dark Phoenix, New Mutants, Jessica Jones, Titans, Batgirl, Batman, Black Adam, Aquaman, Legends Of Tomorrow, Flash, Black Lightning, Arrow, Gotham, Krypton, Agents Of Shield, and Legion.

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The Trusty Sidekick – Episode 78

 

It’s the week before stand-up comics Jay Washington and Bobby Hill head to Chicago for C2E2 and they have everything you need to know about what’s happening in the Marvel and DC live-action universes, on the Laugh Factory Podcast Network. This week, we cover rumors, production news, casting info, spoilers, and reviews of New Gods, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Batman, Titans, Avengers, Captain Marvel, Venom, Deadpool, New Mutants, X-Men, Dr Doom, Nightwatch, Cloak and Dagger, Luke Cage, Legends Of Tomorrow, Black Lightning, Gotham, Krypton, and Agents Of Shield!

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Ben Affleck All But Confirms He Won’t Stay On As Batman

We here at the Trusty Sidekick have been claiming for a while now that Ben Affleck would never make it to Matt Reeves solo Batman movies as the lead and this little nugget all but confirms it. In a press junket for Justice League, dropping next Friday, Affleck is asked how many times he’s played Batman and how many times we should expect to see him in the cape and cowl. We have the video set to start with the question – and…

Not even 5 times? With Justice League being number 4? That means, other than a likely pop up in another character’s movie (I’m guessing Flashpoint – if it happens,) Affleck and Reeves will never end up on set together. This obviously becomes more disappointing if Justice League does well and sets the DCEU on the right track as far as films go, and of course further grows my desire to fight Ben in the streets. I will be ranting about this next week on the podcast, but make sure you find our current episode, here!

Gotham Tabs Peyton List As Third Poison Ivy

Gotham, which is now in it’s 4th season, has landed it’s 3rd Poison Ivy, bringing Peyton List on board. No, not this Peyton List, THIS Peyton List. Yes, not only are there two professional actors with the, not-everyday-name of Peyton List, but Gotham is adding the one who played the Golden Glider on CW’s The Flash, as the new Poison Ivy.

If you don’t remember, Gotham already had a poison Ivy named Maggie Geha, who joined the cast for season 3. Geha was the second, replacing Clare Foley, the original Poison Ivy. So far, Ivy has been touched by an Indian Hill escapee that made her older, and now has drank some potions from an Asian apothecary which will apparently turn her into an entirely different looking person. If nothing else, you can’t say they don’t have a story-based plan for these things.

The Trusty Sidekick – Episode 69

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It’s an amazing 69th episode from comedians Jay Washington and Bobby Hill, with everything live-action Marvel and DC, on the Laugh Factory Network! This week, along with getting you hyped for our appearance at the Chicago Podcast Festival on October 7th, we cover:

Warner Bros/DC Movie News
CW Crossover Info
Supergirl Casting Info
Justice League Updates
Flashpoint Script/Director News
Gotham Episode 1 & 2 Recap
Inhumans Episode 1 & 2 Recap
Black Panther Plot News
Gambit Production/Story Info
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The Trusty Sidekick – Episode 67

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Hard to believe we got this all stuffed into a single hour, but comedians Jay Washington and Bobby Hill deliver everything, from a review of The Defenders to the latest on this season’s Arrow, on the Laugh Factory Podcast Network! There is news, reviews, spoilers and funny the whole way through as we cover:
The Defenders, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, Punisher, Avengers, Spider-Man, Fantastic Four, Inhumans, Runaways, X-Men: Dark Phoenix, Titans, Justice League, Batman, Joker And HarleyQuinn, Gotham City Sirens, Justice League Dark, Suicide Squad, Shazam, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Nightwing, Batgirl, Lobo And Deadshot, Arrow, and Legends Of Tomorrow…

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